{"id":107,"date":"2019-05-06T14:35:29","date_gmt":"2019-05-06T13:35:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/?p=107"},"modified":"2019-05-06T15:04:21","modified_gmt":"2019-05-06T14:04:21","slug":"california-taliban-double-standards-in-apples-app-store","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/index.php\/2019\/05\/06\/california-taliban-double-standards-in-apples-app-store\/","title":{"rendered":"California Taliban &#8211; Double standards in Apple&#8217;s App Store"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We are, as many others have commented, slowly walking into a future where what we can see, read, or do online is controlled by a relatively small number of companies, like Twitter, Facebook, Apple and Google.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Governments, fearful of being seen to censor directly, bring pressure on Silicon Valley companies to \u201cprotect users\u201d or \u201cclean up\u201d discussions. And so Twitter bans some people, Tumblr becomes less pornographic, and so on. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To an extent, this is the right of those companies &#8211; they operate the platforms, they\u2019re businesses, and they can do what they want. But as they do so, the ramifications spread far and wide.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nebulous \u201ccommunity standards\u201d somehow allow Gay Conversion apps to end up on stores, or an app that Saudi men can use to track their wives and make sure they don\u2019t travel without permission. Videos on YouTube that deal with safer sex end up being \u201cde-monetised,\u201d cutting off vital streams of funding for their creators. Policies like Facebook\u2019s \u201cReal Name\u201d rule endanger LGBT people, women fleeing from violence and others. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once again, these companies are entitled to have their policies &#8211; but we are entitled to ask if they\u2019re the right ones, if they are being applied fairly, and if it is reasonable that there is no oversight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A word about BLUF<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I run BLUF, the Breeches and Leather Uniform Fanclub; it\u2019s for men who have an interest in leather uniforms, though it\u2019s more social than about hook-ups &#8211; we have over 150 meetings around the world each year. We don&#8217;t allow nudity or sexually explicit photos on the website. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> And, after adding a few tweaks, we were able to get our app, BLUF Navigator, into Apple\u2019s App Store. (Principally, we had to add blocking and reporting tools, and a method to display and accept an EULA).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I honestly didn\u2019t expect any problems with our second app, BLUF Calendar. This is an app that takes data about the events we and other groups host, and syncs it on your device, allowing you to browse offline. You can highlight events, add them directly to your calendar, and share them via social media &#8211; it even reformats posters into a square frame for sharing on Instagram. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Check out our calendar<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The whole calendar is publicly visible on the website at <a href=\"http:\/\/bluf.com\/events\">bluf.com\/events<\/a> and I honestly don\u2019t think there\u2019s anything too racy in there. Though, I was quite willing to accept that, as standards seem to be rather more puritan in America than elsewhere, we might need to do things like provide a way for certain posters to be hidden from app users, and maybe edit the information about some events. Nothing insurmountable, I imagined.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-3 is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\"><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"577\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.09.05-577x1024.png\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"113\" data-link=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/index.php\/2019\/05\/06\/california-taliban-double-standards-in-apples-app-store\/simulator-screen-shot-iphone-se-2019-04-23-at-13-09-05\/\" class=\"wp-image-113\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.09.05-577x1024.png 577w, https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.09.05-169x300.png 169w, 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https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.09.50.png 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 577px) 100vw, 577px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\"><figure><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"577\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.10.22-577x1024.png\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"118\" data-link=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/index.php\/2019\/05\/06\/california-taliban-double-standards-in-apples-app-store\/simulator-screen-shot-iphone-se-2019-04-23-at-13-10-22\/\" class=\"wp-image-118\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.10.22-577x1024.png 577w, https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.10.22-169x300.png 169w, https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Simulator-Screen-Shot-iPhone-SE-2019-04-23-at-13.10.22.png 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 577px) 100vw, 577px\" \/><\/figure><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So, when the first rejection came, with a note that there was objectionable content, I expected that a relatively simple clarification would find out what the problem was &#8211; perhaps a poster too like a Tom of Finland drawing, or an event description too explicit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But there was nothing, beyond the bland statement<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Your app includes content that is overtly sexual. <br><br>Apps with sexually explicit content and themes are not appropriate for the App Store. <\/p><cite>Apple, 11th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I appealed:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Can you give an example of specific material in the app that you believe is overtly sexual? The content of the app is a list of events with descriptions, and in some cases posters. <br><br>We do not believe that any of the posters are overtly sexual, but clearly standards of prudishness vary across the world. If you are able to give guidance, then we can restrict the display of certain posters in the app, or ensure content in the database is edited appropriately. <br><br>Yes, the app is intended for a mature audience &#8211; so too are other apps already on the store, which are aimed at the same audience. Are we to believe that anything leather-related is by its nature overtly sexual? <\/p><cite>Me, 11th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p> The response was another checkbox reply; rather than say what the problem was, which might make it possible to address, I was told <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>We hope that you will make the appropriate changes to your app to bring it into compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines and resubmit your app for review.<\/p><cite>Apple, 14th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I asked again<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Hello! Without you telling me exactly which content you find objectionable, how can I put in place processes to make sure that such content isn&#8217;t displayed in the app? You haven&#8217;t included any attachments, so I don&#8217;t honestly know what the issue is.<\/p><cite>Me, 14th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>And this time, we got a bit closer to a response. Apple responded<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Thank you for your response. Fetishism related apps are not compliant with the App Store Review Guideline 1.1.4.<\/p><cite>Apple, 14th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p> Now, as I\u2019ve said before, this is their App Store, and their rules, so I can\u2019t complain too much. However, there\u2019s also clearly a weird set of standards at work here, because that response is a flat out lie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Check out the App Store. Go on&#8230;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>How do I know? Because if I open the App Store and type \u201cfetishism\u201d or \u201cfetish\u201d into the search box, there are well over twenty apps, including some long established gay dating apps, apps for people into spanking and whipping, and hook-up apps that specifically mention \u201ckink\u201d or \u201cfetish\u201d or \u201cBDSM\u201d in their description.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You can even search the App Store on the web. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Try it (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.apple.com\/us\/search\/fetish?src=serp\" target=\"_blank\">Try it<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, it\u2019s honestly quite hard for me to believe Apple\u2019s statement. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I tried to use the contact form to speak to a person, and got a response saying that I should use the appeal form in App review (so what\u2019s the point of the contact form?) after submitting a new build.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Next, I ran the app, the description and the screenshots past someone who works for a big app that is fetish focussed and in the App Store, for their opinions. I tweaked the description to remove the words \u2018kink\u2019 and \u2018fetish\u2019 and updated some screenshots, and submitted a new build.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And the answer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Your app includes content that is considered pornographic. <br><br>Apps with sexually explicit content and themes are not appropriate for the App Store. <\/p><cite>Apple, 25th April<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I responded &#8211; and as you can imagine, I\u2019m getting a bit frustrated at this continual stonewalling:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>Once again, if you think there is objectionable material in the app, please can you tell me what it is? <br><br>I have tried using the contact form to speak to a person, and got told to file a report again. <br><br>There are lots of apps in the app store that cover fetishism, proving hook-ups and so on. I&#8217;ve even had the developers of some of those look at this app, and they can&#8217;t understand the rejection either. <br><br>If you can give examples of the content you find objectionable, then we can put in place processes to remove it. This must be the fourth of fifth time now I&#8217;ve simply asked for an explanation of what exactly you don&#8217;t like. <br><br>Please at least grant me the courtesy of speaking to a real human being about this on the phone. <\/p><cite>Me, May 1st<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Human contact!<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, last week, someone called. And essentially just re-iterated that they consider the app &#8211; remember, this is a list of events, and event descriptions, and some posters &#8211; to be pornographic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I pressed hard to find out what. One event highlighted was the BLUF LA Event on May 10th. That has the text (beware, filth ahead!)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>BLUF LA Monthly Leather Social &#8211; catch up with other BLUF members at our regular monthly event in Los Angeles.<br>More info: Robert, aka Motorboot (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bluf.com\/profiles\/834\">834<\/a>)<\/p><cite>https:\/\/www.bluf.com\/events\/2928<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"639\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/bluflaposter2014.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-108\" srcset=\"https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/bluflaposter2014.jpg 639w, https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/bluflaposter2014-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/roughsex.org\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/bluflaposter2014-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 639px) 100vw, 639px\" \/><figcaption>The &#8216;pornographic&#8217; BLUF LA poster<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>And at the time of the phone call, it had the image above attached to it and displayed in the app. Now, I accept that some people might find this image a bit too racy, but it\u2019s erotica not porn in my view. Nevertheless, I asked the person on the call, \u201cHannah\u201d if it would be possible to gain approval if we removed such images from the app.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The answer? No. Because the concept of the app itself is pornographic. Because it\u2019s aimed at men into leather. And that\u2019s a fetish, and that\u2019s not allowed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At this point, I told her that I felt that was certainly sex-phobic, and very probably homophobic. That\u2019s a touchy point it seems &#8211; it was something Hannah wasn\u2019t even prepared to accept and allow to be discussed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because leather is a fetish, and fetish isn\u2019t allowed, we can\u2019t even have an app approved that has such filthy, raunchy things as brunches and dinners, and social meetings in bars. If we \u201cchanged the concept\u201d we might be able to get approved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Stubborn refusal<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This, to me, feels like saying \u201cWell, we don\u2019t mind the nice gays, but those ones into leather? They should go back to hide in the closet.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNo, we\u2019re not discussing homophobia\u201d I was told, again. So I reminded Hannah &nbsp;that she\u2019s not the arbiter of whether or not I think something is homophobic, just as you don\u2019t get to tell a person of colour whether or not they can consider something racist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I pointed out that there are lots of apps that are fetish related, including some of the examples above. Hannah\u2019s response? She told me that if I felt there were things in the App Store that shouldn\u2019t be, then I should report them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I explained I don\u2019t want to dob anyone in. I don\u2019t want anyone else\u2019s apps pulled. I just want to know why we can\u2019t even have a list of events, when other people have apps that are explicitly described as enabling kinky hook-ups, or enhancing your sex life. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The summary of the call, from Apple\u2019s position, is this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\"><p>As we discussed, your app includes content that is considered pornographic. Apps with sexually explicit content and themes, such as sexual fetishes, are not appropriate for the App Store.<\/p><cite>Apple, May 2nd<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>From mine, it\u2019s this: there are clear double standards here, and getting real information out of Apple about app rejections is next to impossible. I accept that standards of sexual propriety differ &#8211; after all, America is still coming to terms with Janet Jackson\u2019s nipple, all these years later &#8211; but if you are going to apply standards of prudishness, at least apply them consistently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Don\u2019t brush people off by claiming that the whole concept of their app is pornographic, when you can\u2019t offer a better explanation than \u201cleather = fetish = porn\u201d while at the same time you\u2019re happy to host dozens of kink and fetish related apps in your store, and make money out of them. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Don\u2019t put the onus on me to wreck other people\u2019s businesses by reporting them. If you want a standard, enforce it. Make it clear. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is this homophobia? Just anti-sex? Is it because &#8211; unlike some of the other apps &#8211; we don\u2019t have a way for Apple to make a nice stream of income from BLUF Calendar? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I honestly don\u2019t know. But I do know it\u2019s a double standard, and that\u2019s what stinks most of all.<br><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are, as many others have commented, slowly walking into a future where what we can see, read, or do online is controlled by a relatively small number of companies, like Twitter, Facebook, Apple and Google. Governments, fearful of being seen to censor directly, bring pressure on Silicon Valley companies to \u201cprotect users\u201d or \u201cclean up\u201d discussions. And so Twitter bans some people, Tumblr becomes less pornographic, and so on. To an extent, this is the right of those companies &#8211; they operate the platforms, they\u2019re businesses, and they can do what they want. 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